Q+A
- Round One
Q- What have you been up to the last six years?
AW -After
making and releasing 'Liquid', I did feel very drained and
a bit resentful that, having put so much effort into trying
to create something special, people were writing to me saying
"I want to buy your album but it's impossible to find
it in the shops." Also, during the weeks when radio
stations were playing the singles, again, they were unavailable
to buy almost anywhere. I thought - well what's the point?
So I decided to spend some time having a life and enjoying
my family. I always wanted to be there to see my children
grow up - and they do put making records into perspective.
Stan had just been born and was proving quite a handful
(still is!) and it just wouldn't have been fair to have
left Hep to deal with all the childcare. As it is, she does
so much more than I do, without (much) complaint. During
the break, I also managed to fit in a lot of drinking, watching
of sport, drinking and watching sport.
Q+A
- Round Two
Q - What was the impetus for your return to the studio?
AW -
In fact, it was Hep who encouraged me most to get back into
the studio and start working again. There was only so much
sitting around drinking and watching sport that she could
take! I had actually made a couple of false starts during
the 5 year break where I just couldn't really get going.
I think, eventually, my enthusiasm came back and i realised
that I'm actually much less grumpy when I'm being creative
in some way.
Q
- How was the recording of this album different from previous
Recoil albums?
AW -
It wasn't especially different. My approach is always both
experimental and methodical so, once I'd got past the inevitable
learning curve with new equipment and computer upgrades
and so on, I was back in my natural habitat where I just
start throwing different sounds and loops together until
I get a spark. Trying to get my head around the new gear
was a bit daunting. I had to upgrade nearly everything in
the digital domain and it took me a couple of months before
I could get any actual music going. i also discovered 'Ableton
Live' (software) which I used a lot on this LP for manipulating
loops. The recording of Joe Richardson was a bit different.
Hep, PK and I travelled to Texas and used a local studio
but I'll explain more about that in an editorial which will
appear on the Recoil site soon.
I think
the results are a little more accessible in many ways. 'subHuman'
probably has more melodies and is less experimental but
it does possess all the usual Recoil trademarks, like strong
atmosphere and aural depth. I also think it's a more
subtle record than 'Liquid', narratively.Iwould hope that
the listener will discover more and more in it with repeated
listens.
There is clearly a strong blues flavour throughout which
was intentional from an early stage and then enhanced by
Joe's vocals. His character is really stamped all over the
record and, if you don't like his style, then you will be
disappointed.
Personally, I love it.
I've been fascinated by Blues & Gospel music since an
early age, when I first discovered Glam rock in the 70s.I
wanted to go back and find out where this music originated
from and I would find myself at the piano trying to work
out all the old blues licks instead of practising my scales!
I suppose the immediate emotional content of the blues connects
with me ( there is nearly always an inherent melancholy
) and I love the idea of adding that richness onto the Recoil
canvas to create a deeper experience.
Q+A
- Round Three
Q - Has the industry movement to software synths and samplers
changed the way you make music?
AW -
Not really. I still enjoy using the technology and it can
definitely make your life easier, as long as you don't become
a slave to it. When it comes to computers and software,
you just have to keep updating otherwise you find that nothing
is compatible anymore. For me, 5 years out of the studio
meant massive changes were necessary and it was quite frustrating
trying to bring myself up to speed with everything. You
see, I'm really not that technical - once I get a method,
I tend to stick to it.
Q+A
- Round Four
Q - How do the thematic elements of this album relate to
previous Recoil albums?
AW -
As usual, I didn't write any of the lyrics so I just try
to interpret them in a way that makes sense to me and suggests
a theme. I guess the themes relate in that we are still
looking at the darker side of human nature, which I find
essentially quite depressing but also fascinating. Joe's
words set me thinking about the idea of the 'subHuman'.
Whether we are talking about class, religion, race, sexuality
and so on. It's not just what is happening in the world
today but the fact that it is a never-ending cycle, happening
on so many levels, in so many ways. How often do we see
the human rendered as subhuman - a worthless recyclable
being - by those wishing to subordinate? We are all looked
down upon by somebody..., every day.
Q+A
- Round Five
Q - If you meet someone who doesn't know your work professionally,
and the topic comes up in conversation, how do you describe
Recoil to them?
AW -
Usually by faffing around looking for the right adjectives
and sounding like a complete moron while doing so. Then
I carry on by saying 'it's nothing like Depeche Mode - honest!'
In the end, I come up with some sort of pretentious 'oh
it's sort of avant garde, filmic soundscapes' or some such
twaddle...
Q+A
- Round Six
Q - Which of the Depeche Mode albums do you think benefited
the most from the re-mastering? How about the 5.1 treatment?
AW -
Daniel Miller's concept for the DM 5.1 mixes was very much
to re-create the original stereo mixes, so that didn't leave
much room for experimentation. I have to say, I was a bit
disappointed by that although I could sort of understand
his reasoning. It should have been a wonderful opportunity
to update some of the mixes and reveal a lot more. For example,
I would have liked to have done a newer version of 'Songs
Of Faith & Devotion' because I don't think we got the
best from the mixes on that album (and it's also my favourite
LP). Each album was very different but when we listened
to the multitracks, we often found that many of the sounds
had been bounced down with their effects and that made it
impossible to get at the original pure source. It was also
a logistical nightmare to source each original part as quite
often, we had run the parts live during the mix (and never
recorded them to tape). Luckily, there was one band member
who had taken the trouble to make DAT back-ups of everything.
On 'SOFAD', many of the mixes had been squashed heavily
using SSL compressors and the only way to re-create the
excitement that brought was to replicate it in the 5.1 mixes!
This meant almost undoing all the new-found clarity in order
to be faithful to the concept. So, it was a bit frustrating
at times. Some albums seem to have dated worse than others.
'Music For The Masses' sounded a bit uninspiring, 'Black
Celebration' still sounds really good (barring a few duff
tracks! 'New Dress' anyone?).
Q+A
- Round Seven
Q - What about the 'subHuman' 5.1 and ambient mixes - how
did they come about?
AW -
Having said all that (regarding the DM 5.1 strategy), the
surround mixes for 'subHuman' are also based mainly on the
stereo versions. I suppose, having just completed the stereo
mixes, I didn't see the point in completely changing everything
so soon afterwards. Perhaps in 10 years time! So for this,
we ran off stems, which are essentially sub-mixes of all
the elements allowing us to place individual sounds anywhere
in the surround image. The effect shouldn't really be that
different to the stereo mix apart from extra clarity and
breathing space for all the parts. However, when we were
working on the 5.1 mix at the mastering sessions, PK and
I decided to check only the back pair of speakers. We really
enjoyed only listening to the reverbs and other more ethereal
elements of the tracks. It occurred to me that it would
be great to create a whole album version a bit like this
which would expose these elements more. So this is when
I decided to do the ambient reduced version (which, in an
ideal world should have been in 5,1 too). I'm sure that
a lot of Recoil listeners will enjoy this insight into how
the music was constructed and the chance to hear some of
the other sounds more clearly.
Q+A
- Round Eight
Q - Will we ever see Recoil tour? It would be great to see
you live and get the chance to actually meet you!
AW -
I used to enjoy being on the road with Depeche Mode but
Recoil is a completely different beast. I'm not totally
dead set against live performance but it's not something
I'm driven to do (unless it were some kind of financed arty
film/audio production). There's also the question of feasibility.
For a start, the main issue is all the different collaborators;
what are you going to do, enrol a couple of vocalists to
sing everything or try and get all of them together in one
place, let alone on a tour bus for 3 weeks?! Then there's
the music to think about; If Recoil did go live, I'd want
to make the experience quite different from the records
and that would involve complicated and time-consuming programming.
Finally, what would the line-up be - PK shuffling about
fiddling with knobs, Hep in a pink catsuit on tambourine
and me looking crusty and embarrassed behind a keyboard?
Or, maybe I should just do it DJ stylee (DJ Crusty), wiv
some decks an' stuff ; "Big shout goes out to da Recoil
posse........boyee!!!"
I do
understand that many fans appreciate the more personal touch
so I'm looking into perhaps doing some kind of 'live' listening
session with a webcam so that people can join me in analysing
the album and ask questions. Not sure about the technicalities
yet but watch this space.....
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